MONDAY MUSINGS

By Holly Horning

Throughout the week, there are so many smaller stories hitting the media.  They may be bite-size, but often they are just as important as the headline-grabbing news.  Sometimes, even more.

And that’s what brings me to today.  A way to bring them out in the open and invite conversation about some of these subjects.

It’s the plan for Mondays.  Keeping track of these mighty little bits that hit my radar throughout the week and sharing them with you today because I know one or more will also resonate with you. So, let’s kick off this week’s musings…


The Tigers, along with a handful of other teams, altered their parks’ dimensions over the past 2 years.  Last winter, the Tigers lowered some of their fences and moved others in 8 ft.

Three other teams – Blue Jays, Mets, Orioles – made more significant alterations that changed how hitter-friendly their parks were.

Scott Harris said that the Tigers weren’t looking to fundamentally change their park but to tweak it.  And it seems that the tweaking was not really enough to see any changes. So far.

In previous years, Comerica ranked as the ballpark with the most fly outs that would have been home runs in every other park.

It is said that it generally takes 3 years of data to ascertain the results but so far, there aren’t many changes to be seen at Comerica.

Except for triples.  Comerica has ranked #1 for triples in MLB for the past 3 years.

Today, that number has been drastically reduced.

Is that a good thing?  Or does it mean less excitement and action?

I’m not sure yet.  I’m still wrapping my brain around the designing of Comerica by Mike Ilitch and a sports architect that was built for speed and small ball.  But the same owner who helped design it then pushed for the opposite type of player to inhabit it – slow, defensively-challenged and a power hitter.

And 4 Presidents/GMs did nothing to change the obvious mismatch by not allowing its team to play to its strengths.

It took 23+ years for someone to change the strategy – Scott Harris.


It’s interesting to see so many social media comments from fans who complain about Eric Haase.  They want him gone because of his lack of hitting.

Somehow, they may still be stuck on their memories of Lance Parrish.  Catchers haven’t been prized for their hitting in almost 2 decades now.

It’s all about calling a game, guiding pitchers and defense.  Hitting now for a catcher is an afterthought.  If you get one who can hit, it’s an unexpected bonus.

Changes to the game, analytics and evolution have now made a catcher’s offense take a backseat.  A good catcher contributes much more to preventing runs than creating them on his own.

Haase may simply be having an off-year.  But what can’t be denied is that he is an asset behind the plate.  He’s now called 3 no-hitters in his career – and that doesn’t happen by accident.

In the recent combined no-hitter, all 3 pitchers involved personally credited Eric with guiding them every step of the way.  When pictures were taken, they pulled him into the frame.

This last week, both Eduardo Rodriguez and Michael Lorenzen directly credited Haase for their effectiveness and keeping them focused.

Sure, hitting is exciting.  It’s a visible sign to fans.  But sometimes it’s what you don’t see that is just as intriguing – and it can win more games.


Mets owner Steve Cohen often reminds me of Mike Ilitch.  He likes his stars.  And he often interferes in the signing of players.

I wrote earlier in the season that it was a bad move for him to sign both Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer as his #1 and #2 starters.  Both receiving over $43 mill/year with contracts that cover 2-3 years.

What could go wrong with having your top starters aged 40 and 39, right?

And we’ve seen it implode even before the halfway mark.  Both former Tigers getting booed regularly by Mets fans.  I don’t think that ever happened in Detroit.

And now we’re learning that they are being shopped before the trade deadline.  It might be difficult given their ages, salaries and full no-trade clauses.

In fact, JV’s rotation schedule has been tweaked to allow an extra start before the trade deadline.  You know why.

Currently, each is owed $14 mill for the rest of the 2023 season.  It is expected that Cohen will absorb the majority of the rest of their contracts.  The one hitch is what he expects in return.

One would think that Justin Verlander would sign off on a return to Detroit.  He’d be reunited with his former manager, A. J. Hinch.  And he would get the services of Fetter, Lund et al to help him be the best possible pitcher he can be at his age.  And he could return to mentoring young pitchers.

For the Tigers, you’ve got to think that having him back would fill the void by the departure of Miguel Cabrera.  The last franchise face leaving, the other one returning.  JV’s return would sell tickets.

However, the return of an ageing pitcher is problematic esp. when you are building a younger team for the future.  It would only work as a quick, short fix until other starters are able to be promoted and gain experience.

But the bottom line is that Scott Harris is not going to allow any top prospects to leave.  Prospects that the Mets are likely to want in return for a salary dump.

Which one of these stories resonated the most with you?

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32 thoughts on “MONDAY MUSINGS

  1. The COPA changes may not be statistically showing things that are different however the amount of home runs that have been caught and would have produced more hits could have altered many games. The consistent 7 ft high fence has certainly allowed for more athleticism and excitement. And as we see Scott’s draftees make it to the show, I think we will see the COPA give our home boys an advantage.

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    • You make really good points, Naldo. It is quite reasonable to assume that Harris’s legion of analysts will crunch numbers to help conclude which assets and acquisitions might prosper for 81 games in Comerica. That said, I bet you really regret Mike Illitch did not simply renovate Tiger Stadium to add his beloved boxes rather than hire McHale to build such an inferior park.

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    • I like a big outfield which requires outfielders to play back. Then more flairs can drop just beyond the infielders for singles. Also, when outfielders play closer in against a soft hitter, the option opens for a drive between outfielders that rolls to the wall and non-home run hitters can get more base hits in a deep outfield.

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  2. I was startled to see that the modest adjustments to Comerica had reduced triples which are so exciting to watch. Eric Hasse is clearly a popular player and team leader but as a 30 year old journeyman, I am confident that his defensive and offensive deficiencies have been “assessed” by Scott Harris. I am guessing he and Jake will have competition in the spring via a trade or free agency.

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  3. Your insight into the full value of Eric Haase is what sets your analysis apart, Holly. Great work! It’s so easy to become focused on hitting and offense and ignore the other half of the game – especially for a catcher.

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  4. I am one who wants Haase gone, not for his offense but because of his defense. But here looks like Holly shows me wrong, and if that is the case, I am happy to be so. .

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  5. Cohen differs from Illitch in that he has quickly recognized the need to sell off pieces. Verlander too may recognize his mistake signing with the Mets but I simply can’t see Harris making a bid for the Tiger icon. I would put the odds of adding JV just slightly higher than extending Miggy!

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  6. Haase has three no hitters to his credit. He must be doing something right. Old friend of mine from the ’80’s was a 4A catcher for the dodgers and always said pitchers may have the arm but catchers are the brains that call the games and the fielders make the outs.

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      • Hi, All – I can’t emphasize it enough – the most important part of a catcher’s duties are calling a game and defensive skills, not hitting. There is a reason why Haase is on the roster and has caught more games this year than #1 Rogers. The same reason why all the pitchers who work with him praise him publicly.

        And now, his defensive stats are significantly improved since last year. He has changed his stance behind the plate. He’s now in the top 16% of all MLB catchers in framing. His Statcast defensive rating is a plus 6. His DRS is now in the positive and blocks average average has moved from -11 to -2. – Holly

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        • I had not realized this, and I have always thought Haase was a step below Jake Rogers in defensive skills behind the plate. In March 2023, it was written that Haase was -9 in defensive runs saved and that framing was not his strength. I remember Manny Sanguillen of the Pirates in the 70s—he was one catcher who had it all: hitting, defense, even speed on the base paths.

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          • Hi, Andy – You were correct until several months ago. In the off-season, Haase sat down with Hinch and Harris to improve his catching and develop a coaching plan. This is all part of the new regime where players actually buy in to more and better coaching – wanting to improve. Haase is a gamer and he worked his butt off to get better. I think we’ll see a number of players visibly improve and exceed former expectations now that there are new people in charge. – Holly

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      • If Haase’s hitting and not his catching was the reason he’s on the team, why then hasn’t Harris and Hinch cut him and replaced him with someone else? Indeed, why then isn’t Rogers also getting most of the reps? As per the usual, Holly has precisely nailed the answer to those questions, it’s his catching abilities not his hitting that’s keeping him in the bigs.

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    • For $740,100, Eric Haase is a bargain as a #2 catcher. Further, I doubt that any other team wants him due to his first-half 2023 slump. Tigers won’t do much better until a hot rookie appears in Toledo. Tigers, like every MLB team, need 2 capable catchers.

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    • Re: Eric Haase, with the electronic strike zone coming, hitting will become more of a priority since pitch framing will go away. He still knows how to call a game, but the Catcher’s hitting ability will become much more crucial for him to stay up.

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  7. For Verlander, I would offer the Mets paying $30 mil of the $43 per year contract and offer a couple (2) non-premium prospects. Even though he may not be worth that amount on the field, the bridge from losing Miggy to now creating a new kind of team would be worth it. Justin could provide the glue to really help develop the young pitchers because when he shows that he is buying into the input from these coaches

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  8. I agree that Verlander’s return in a trade for the top prospects we have is a bad idea. If he was a free agent that would be something to consider. As far as Scherzer no way would I want him back here because his refusal to pitch one more inning in the ALCS against the Red Sox cost the tigers another world series opportunity.

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    • Hi, Michael – As you requested, yes, I agree with your statement about Max. He was pitching for a new contract and his agent, Scott Boras, had been quoted throughout the year about “protecting his arm.”

      I’ve written a number of blogs about why a team loaded with such talent could only win 1 WS game. And this is proof – players who are thinking of themselves and their next paycheck instead of thinking about the team. Max was thinking only about himself. Which players actually make a managerial decision about whether or not they are going to play? And it didn’t help that he told Jim Leyland he was removing himself and JL went along with his decision knowing how bad a bullpen he had. Oooh, I’m getting all riled up over this again! 🙂 – Holly

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      • Watching the game that night I couldn’t believe JL was taking Scherzer out. At the time I put all the blame on Leland, but after I learned the full story I switched to 50# Leland and 50# Scherzer, maybe more Leland for being gutless.

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      • People seem to forget how magical JL was in handling his BP’s. He was always very adept at grabbing a loss when a victory was in hand. His decisions in the Fenway debacle should be written into the history books.

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  9. As much as I love JV (watched him in college) bringing him back would be disruptive. Its time for the new guys to make a go for it. Even if the Mets assume most of his salary I dont want to give up any of the premium prospects this would take.

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  10. The triple is the most exciting part of the game. The singles, doubles, and home runs are nice, but are too commonplace today.

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  11. The tigers have a long long pattern of getting players passed their prime and thinking they can be impact players. Sheffield, Deer, Prince Fielder, Justin Upton and many others. The definition of insanity is making the same choice expecting different results. Btw strong points on Eric Hasse

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  12. In the minority here but if the Mets are paying most of his contract that’s a plus & much like Dennis Eckersly back in the day JV could take on that kind of a role. Unless SH can manage to fleece the Mets & not trade away half the farm system it’s a win. Otherwise no

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