QUESTION OF THE WEEK

It’s time again to hear from our readers!   Today is the day to let us know what you’re thinking on a selected topic.

Sunday is the one day of the week where we open up the comment parameters for you, so you can get those juices flowing.

Comments on THIS DAY ONLY can be expanded to a maximum of 8 sentences.

We can’t wait to get your thoughts on the following topic:


What about the Tigers is keeping your attention heading into the final
month?

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THE SATURDAY SURVEY

The Saturday Survey offers another way for readers to weigh in on a relevant topic.   So here is a poll to gauge the pulse of our baseball-lovin’ peeps.

As always, we welcome your comments, so please vote and then submit your reasons ( 4 sentences max!) for how you voted in the usual comment box.  Don’t forget to come back later and view the results!


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LABOR DAY DIARIES

In honor of Labor Day weekend, we are offering up a special opportunity to share your stories.   It’s time again to hear from our readers!   If you have a story up your sleeve based on the selected topic, well, we would appreciate it if you shared it with all of us.

The comment parameters have been expanded so you can get those juices flowing.

Comments on THIS DAY ONLY can be expanded to a maximum of 8 sentences.

We can’t wait to get your thoughts on the following topic:


What was your most memorable interaction with a Tiger (player, owner or management)?

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THE TRADE TRACK RECORD

By:  Holly Horning

Let’s face it, we’re keeping track. Even if they are no longer wearing the Old English D, we’re keeping track. Some of us because of loyalty and fan favorites. Some of us out of curiosity. And some, because we want to gauge the skills of those in the Front Office. Afterall, if the team is rebuilding, they have to accurately judge the talent before they acquire it.

We generally point to a couple of high-profile players as our proof. But what about the overall number of trades made? How did the Tigers do overall in trading away their top talent?

In other words, how did these players do after they left the Tigers?  Did we get an equal return on the talent that left?

Sure, there are a number of factors to consider. Players end up with other teams that offer them better chances of hitting with runners on base. Other teams have established and advanced analytics and hi-tech tools that make training more effective. Ballparks can also be a factor, as can better coaches. And let’s face it, you can be more productive by simply moving to a team not mired in extreme losing and low energy.

Let’s look at those who have been traded since Dave Dombrowski’s last days. We’ll focus on the players with higher profiles and eliminate those who were with the team for a year or less. We’ll also ignore the multiple players who were simply released – Joe Nathan, Francisco Rodriguez, Bruce Rondon and others – due to age or personal factors.

And in this exercise, we’re not going to necessarily emphasize the returns the Tigers received for each player traded. In many cases, the prospects have not yet made their mark or the jury is still out. Let’s focus on what each former Tiger brought to the table for their new team. What was received in return will be considered, as will salary.

Great move? Bad move? Or sideways move? It’s all here below.

(Any stats used are current through Monday, August 26th.)


DODGED A BULLET (GOOD MOVES)

David Price – The Tigers received Norris, Boyd and Labourt. Since leaving Detroit, he’s 46-24 (3.85 ERA) but often injured and in the news for the wrong reasons. He’s still working off a $210 million contract that is backloaded and runs through 2022 when he is 36 years old.

Joakim Soria – Traded for JaCoby Jones. We still haven’t seen everything JJ is capable of doing but he’s certainly helping to stabilize that outfield defense.

DISASTER FOR DETROIT

Nick Castellanos – Still too early to tell, but Nick is ripping the cover off the ball for the Cubs with 2 grand slams and a .375 BA, 8 HRs, 1.114 OPS and 14 RBIs in just 3 weeks. Maybe if Al Avila hadn’t been constantly advertising how there was no interest in him, the Tigers would have receive something better than 2 middlin’ prospects.

Mike Fiers – Traded for 2 PTBNL including 1 who retired 4 days after being dealt. Since leaving, he threw a no-hitter and has won 17 games (with 5 losses) for Oakland in less than 2 years.

Jose Iglesias – He was non-tendered by Detroit who received nothing for dropping him. Since then, he’s hitting near .300 and having one of his best years offensively. You already know about his glove.

J.D. Martinez – Traded to the Diamondbacks for 3 prospects including Dawel Lugo, the best-known. In the meantime, he hit 103 HRs, 281 RBIs, a BA over .300 each year and an OPS averaging out to 1.000. Oh, and 4 awards and runner-up for the AL MVP.

James McCann – The Tigers non-tendered him and received nothing in return as a result. Since moving to the White Sox, he’s hitting .282 with 15 HRs, 50 RBIs and an OPS over .800. He’s won the big team award for his play and leadership and is a finalist for a national award.

Mike Pelfrey – He signed a 2-year contract for $16 million and played only part of 1 year before being released.

Rick Porcello – Traded for Yoenis Cespedes, he’s had 3 winning years (70-53) for Boston and won a Cy Young for it. All averaging at $18 mill/year.

Anibal Sanchez – The Tigers paid him to go away and received nothing in return. Since then, he’s had a winning record with 2 teams.

Justin Verlander – No reminder needed for this one. The Tigers sent him, another prospect and $16 million to Houston in exchange for Perez (always hurt), Daz Cameron (can’t hit) and Jake Rogers. Meanwhile, he’s 36-14 with a 2.51 ERA and in the running for Cy Young every year. The steal of the century for Houston – and probably in all of MLB.

A DRAW FOR DETROIT

Alex Avila (and Justin Wilson) – Both haven’t done much since leaving (although Wilson is doing well this year) and it is now appearing that Jeimer Candelario’s time with Detroit is limited. But Isaac Paredes appears promising so far.

Yoenis Cespedes – He played well for the Mets but was often hurt and missed significant playing time. He also angered fans with his 18-holes of golf on a playoff day that resulted in injury and poor playoff stats. He was traded for Michael Fulmer and Luis Cessa who was then traded to the Yankees for Justin Wilson.

Shane Greene – It’s still too early to tell. Greene has gotten off to a rocky start while Travis Demeritte is showing some early promise.

Ian Kinsler – Like Maybin, he’s had his ups and down, primarily due to age. But his defensive skills and leadership are missed and the 2 prospects the Tigers received for him have yet to advance.

Cameron Maybin – He’s had his ups and downs since leaving Detroit in exchange for Victor Alcantara. But his leadership and outfield skills could really be used on today’s Tiger team.

Justin Upton – He was traded for 2 prospects, one of whom retired from baseball shortly thereafter. He had one great year sandwiched in-between 2 so-so years but at least the Tigers are not paying that $128 million salary.

So there it is. Would you move any of these players into another category? Most importantly, what do these results show about the Tigers’ decision-making? Is this simply luck-of-the-draw or is there something else to this?


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GET OUT THE WINDEX – PART TWO

By:  Holly Horning

Last week, we covered the problems with assumptions as they pertain to the Tigers’ rebuilding. If you didn’t read it – or need a refresher – here it is.


https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2019/08/20/get-out-the-windex-part-1/


In Part Two, we’ll address Al Avila, the Front Office and coaching. Let’s get going…….

Chris Ilitch approves of the job Al Avila is doing because he extended him.  But what if Avila serves a convenient purpose for Chris other than his work as the GM?

The Tigers have collected several top draft picks which will assure us of being competitive in a few years.  But how likely is it that they will continue to develop into top MLB players as they move through the farm system?

Al Avila has signed a number of underwhelming players instead of filling the roster holes with adequate MLB level players.  But what if he isn’t being given any money that would allow him to sign better players?

Al Avila has put himself and the entire Front Office in charge of rebuilding the team.  How can we be assured that different decisions and strategies will be adopted by the same group that has been together since the Expos and Marlins?

Al Avila started the team’s analytics department.  But how do we know that everyone knows how to use it or are even sharing the necessary information with the players?

Al Avila has traded or non-tendered a number of talented players and received little or nothing in return.  But what if ownership demanded salary dumps?

Ron Gardenhire appears to have lost his ability to influence players to perform better, esp. when it comes to fundamentals.  But what if he understands that the coaches he inherited or were placed by Jim Leyland have secure jobs and no accountability?

Ron Gardenhire has been moving players positionally on a regular basis that has contributed to increased sloppy play.  But what if he is being asked to do this by the Front Office in order to ascertain players’ values going forward and/or to enhance trade value?

What assumptions would you add to this list that address the three subjects listed above?  How would you argue just one of these statements?


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OPEN MIKE!

microphoneIt’s the last Sunday of the month, folks, which means it’s your day! This is the day for you to be heard. Today is the one day during the month (normally) where you get the opportunity to comment on the Tiger topic of your choosing.

This is the one day of the week where we open up the comment parameters for you, so you can really get those juices flowing. Comments on THIS DAY ONLY can be expanded to a maximum of 8 sentences.  So pick a topic and let us hear from you!  What’s on your minds?


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THE SATURDAY SURVEY

The Saturday Survey offers another way for readers to weigh in on a relevant topic.   So here is a poll to gauge the pulse of our baseball-lovin’ peeps.

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TWICE AS NICE

By:  Kurt Snyder & Holly Horning

We are now nearing the latter part of August and for a team going nowhere fast, it is completely fair to take a peek at the coming seasons, imagining what the team might look like.

Are there players on this year’s team who will have future roles with the Tigers? What qualifies them for a spot in 2020 and beyond? It certainly begs more questions and answers.

Kurt and Holly have not shared their answers to the following question for the purpose of offering a wider range of perspectives.

So let’s get on with it and see what our writers have to say.


Let’s ignore, for the time being, the issues surrounding holes in the roster and not enough suitable candidates within the farm system. Which players (not named Miggy) would our two bloggers deem worthy of keeping on the roster going forward in the future?


KURT

I looked for players who separate themselves in any phase of the game that make them important future pieces heading into next season for the Tigers – and 5 have qualified.

Matthew Boyd
Harold Castro
Jake Rogers
Spencer Turnbull
Joe Jimenez


HOLLY

My selections are based upon players who are solid/excel in more than 1 category and would be a certain multi-year roster member on an MLB-competitive team, not just a temporary fill in until a suitable prospect develops.

1. Matthew Boyd
2. Jake Rogers
3. Spencer Turnbull


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TECHNOLOGY SILENCING BASEBALL

By:  Kurt Snyder

The umpires have brought this on themselves. And it is becoming apparent that before long, the home plate ump will become extinct.

As we continue to see the game change before our eyes, nothing would be a bigger change than to see the advent of the electronic strike zone.

It’s been piloted in some levels of the minor leagues and Commissioner Rob Manfred is all for bringing it to the big leagues.

I have an opinion on the topic and it is, for lack of a better word, mixed. I think it would be a drastic move for the game and the human element would take a tremendous blow to the proverbial midsection.

I don’t like it, but I understand why it’s being considered. If umpires want to be so much a part of the game, and want to be part of the action, then my message would be to ‘keep it up, you’ll be sorry.’

Balls and strikes are not to be argued or else players and managers risk being ejected from the game. But many receive quick ejections, wondering why some umps have such a quick hook and equally thin skin.

Some umpires seem to get a charge out of having such an influence on the game, quickly overreacting to any complaint no matter the severity.

More and more of today’s umpires enjoy the spotlight – a place they don’t belong. This game is all about the players and if umpires want a piece of the action, well, then eventually technology is going to find more of a home.

Technology won’t argue. Technology won’t eject anyone. And it doesn’t have an ego.

If you think about it, this emergence of an electronic strike zone began to grow legs the moment that box appeared over the plate on our TV screens. It had to make umpires nervous, because anytime their call didn’t correspond with what appeared inside or outside that box, then they were wrong in our eyes.

The human element in baseball has always been something that the lovers of the game, uh, liked about baseball. But instant replay has played a role in tempering that as well.

When umps make a call after a batted ball anywhere on the field, that call can be challenged. And if it’s a close play, umpires are asked to step aside for instant replay.

‘Thanks for playing umps, but you know, we think you’re wrong.’  And what do you hate most about instant replay, other than how long it takes to make a decision?

That’s right, no arguments!

First of all, you can’t argue after an instant replay, and battles between managers and umpires has always been a source of intrigue and excitement, and if we couple the electronic strike zone with instant replay, well, managers might as well just put their feet up with no reason to ever come onto the field.

Now, I know what you’re thinking, who really misses arguments on the field? Well, I do. Sports are fueled by emotion and adrenaline and when that manager charges out onto the field, the whole place comes alive and tempers flare. And, oh, by the way, the manager might just be out there to send a message to his team and nothing else. A message who says, ‘I’m out here supporting you guys.’ ‘I care about how fairly you are being treated – just so you know.’

When the chips are down, your team is getting beaten and the energy level is low in the dugout, managers can put on a pretty good show out on that diamond, kicking dirt, throwing their hat, getting in the ump’s face. All very entertaining, right? But motivational as well.

And what happens when the manager is ejected at home? Fans cheer him! They love it! And all of a sudden, what do you have? Excitement. Engaged fans who maybe weren’t as engaged before and hopefully a renewed focus from the players.

Most of us remember when Brad Ausmus, during his time as manager in Detroit, appeared to be so furious with the umpire that he took off his sweatshirt and laid it over home plate, as if to say, ‘if you aren’t going to call pitches over the plate strikes, then we don’t need home plate!’

What was the general feeling at the time? It was a show! For the fans. And for his players. It’s not something he did often when he was here. So we questioned whether it was genuine or not. But as Brad headed for the dugout, he got an ovation he had never heard before, or again, in Detroit.

You see, that’s the thing. Arguments get people talking, peak their interest. ‘Boy, is he mad! I have to see where that pitch was!’

See what I mean?

Much of it has been taken away with instant replay. But if you institute an electronic strike zone, too, it will really shut the water off when it comes to energy and emotion.

These are the games within the game that we often talk about. It’s the action and the strategy that can exist between pitches or between innings. Managers and umpires used to slug it out. And trips out onto the field to chat or scream at the ump, many times have an underlying purpose. To protect a player. To motivate a team. Or to gain an advantage.

I believe it needs to be part of the discussion. I believe it is something that has validity.

Technology can go a long way towards ensuring that correct calls are made all over the field. But what’s scary is that it could silence the game altogether.


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GET OUT THE WINDEX – PART 1

By:  Holly Horning

“Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won’t come in.” ― Isaac Asimov


The Tigers are not just “rebuilding”, they’ve entered their third year of a new stage. New owner. New GM. New manager. All that despite the same old Front Office and medical, training and conditioning staffs.

But the Tigers had a really good run for a decade. A lot of fans got spoiled. We became accustomed to receiving an assortment of benefits that other teams did not give their fans.

And now that we have new-ish people in charge, should we be hanging onto these same expectations? Should we be expecting that certain decision pathways will continue to be followed?

This scenario is currently playing out with Tigers fans. There are some who are open to understanding that dramatic changes in how the organization operates will change. And there are others who believe that the Tigers are continuing – or at least taking a couple years off from – the normal until the team is once again competitive. Believing, in the end, that the old ways established by Mike Ilitch will return.

What’s most important to understand is that many of us will be making assumptions about the future of this team. And those assumptions may be wrong.

Holding certain assumptions may end up disappointing us. Or confusing us. Or even surprising us.

So what are we to do? How do we know when we are making assumptions?

The easiest answer is to wipe the slate clean of what used to be. Start asking yourself questions. Play Devil’s Advocate with your old beliefs. Ignore the track record and look more deeply into the issues and figure out where the benefits reside.

Here are some of the issues we are most likely to face. Let’s divide them down into subjects. Today, we’ll tackle the possible assumptions being made about the overall rebuild and Chris Ilitch. In Part 2 next week, we’ll go deeper into the organization so save your thoughts about the GM, Front Office and farm system for then.

Here we go…..


The Tigers tell us they are rebuilding.                                                                                                         But what if ownership is really focused on turning a profit as the priority?

The Tigers point to what to expect in the future.                                                                                   But what if ownership is only thinking ahead a couple years because the team is being prepped for a sale?

Fans see the expected pattern of rebuilding and believe that successful results will eventually be had.                                                                                                                                                  But what if there is more to the process than tanking and #1 draft picks?

Chris Ilitch says he is committed to putting a winning team on the field.                                                                                                                                                                                       If he is reaping the benefits of increased revenue sharing and extra monetary bonuses from tanking, why would he want to change this formula?

Chris Ilitch will hang onto the Tigers because of its rising value.                                            But what if he needs to free up money that a sale would create in order to finance other projects?

Ilitch will keep ownership of the team because of the upcoming media rights and his interest in starting a regional sports network.                                                                                    But what if viewership keeps trending downward and contracts become less valuable? Does he have to own the Tigers in order to start his own tv network?

When the time is right, Chris Ilitch will open his wallet and sign established players. Does Chris have the same passion and motivation as his father?

Ilitch will end up investing in the Tigers once the rebuild is underway and/or the biggest money comes off the books.                                                                                                              If he hasn’t kept his investment promises with other city projects, what makes us believe that he will change his investment track record with this team?


What assumptions would you add to this list that address the two subjects listed above?

How would you argue just one of these statements?


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