HOLE-Y LINEUP, BATMAN!

by Holly Horning

The Detroit Tigers have a perceived chicken-or-an-egg problem.  Is their continued bad offense primarily due to a lack of talent or ineffective coaching?

While I lean towards the former – and there’s plenty of evidence, there’s really something else going on that’s been one of the biggest catalysts for repeated failure.

Their lineup is so easy for other teams to work around.

While many look at each individual player and their stats, it’s incorrect to believe that what they do at the plate is solely their responsibility.  This isn’t a team of 9 individual hitters.  It’s a lineup with 9 pieces that have to fit together in order to work.

Only in the Tigers’ case, there are a bunch of broken links.  A slew of holes.  And opposing teams are freely taking advantage of them.

Opponents work around a team’s weakest hitters.  And when the weakest hitters are followed by other weak hitters who pose no real threat, we shouldn’t be surprised by the results.

There are lots of fans who expect that having just 1 legit hitter could cure the ills of the rest of the lineup.

And that is unrealistic.

Let’s address the weakest hitters now.

The first is Miguel Cabrera.  He’s played in just under half this year’s games so far and hitting well under .200.  A total of 3 RBIs for his effort, an easy out on the base paths and a detriment to scoring runs.  Even as he gets moved further and further down to the #7 slot.

But we can’t blame Miggy.  Injuries have taken their toll and he is a shadow of the player he used to be.  He is doing the best he can given significant physical problems.  Keep in mind that no one, absolutely no one, is going to walk away from $32 million.

This problem resides solely with ownership.  Multiple reports say that the “play him” edict comes from the Ilitch family.  Scott Harris and A. J. Hinch can’t do anything about it but they are expected by the Ilitchs to resolve the dearth of hitting while the primary problem remains.

Then you’ve got Jonathan Schoop who hasn’t hit since 2021.  Despite trying to platoon him, the lack of depth puts him into games for late-inning defensive purposes and injuries (like the recent one to Javy Baez).

Next up is (was) Tyler Nevin.  Called up to replace Matt Manning but really to help cover for the expected long-term absence of Austin Meadows and to help at 3B.  Mashing in Toledo but hitting .050 (yes, you read that correctly) in Detroit until his demotion this past weekend.

The short of it is that the Tigers have 3 players – one third of their lineup – with no offense to offer or to help their teammates at the plate.  And that’s just with a quick glance at the lineup.

This is simply an astounding chunk of hitters one team cannot count on much at all.

Austin Meadows, a dependable hitter is gone for an unknown but presumed extended period of time.  And now the team has lost Kerry Carpenter to the IL.  To replace them, the Tigers called up Akil Baddoo, Zack Short and Andy Ibanez.

Are we excited yet?  To quote Miracle Max from The Princess Bride “Why don’t you just give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice over it?”

The Tigers now are hitting a whopping .222 as a team.  Do they have a single player who strikes fear into the hearts of pitchers?  Is there any hitter opponents work around?

We know the answer to that.

Currently the Tigers lineup is simply divided down into 2 groups – the weakest hitters and the weak ones.  And as such, you can’t ask the latter to make up for the deficiencies of the former group.

You simply can’t expect the rest of the lineup to compensate for the inadequacies of 3 other hitters.  Especially when Cabrera, Schoop and Nevin (or the most recent call up) come to plate every 3 innings.  It’s simply impossible to generate any real sustainable offense when they are still in the lineup.

It’s a huge hole that can’t be covered up or worked around.  Opponents know it and use it to their advantage.  Their pitchers get to stay in longer, they give up fewer (if any) walks and no one gets “pitched around.”

There’s no challenge.  There’s no threat.

And that’s why all the other hitters in the lineup have such poor stats. (Or in this case, poorer stats than they would normally generate if the team didn’t have that hole.)  Hitters get pitched to differently depending upon whether or not there are already runners on base and who is hitting behind them. 

With a significant number of weak hitters, you’re never going to have a lineup in which 1 player excels and puts up great numbers.   The entire team will drag him down.  No one on that roster is going to have an advantage at the plate.  In fact, quite the opposite.  Each hitter is somewhat dependent upon the other hitters who surround him.

Many fans have pointed to “under-performance” of most of last year’s roster when it really is about the makeup of the lineup that has dragged everyone down.

So how does this team get better offensively?

Adding 1 or even 2 new solid bats won’t help much if you’ve got all those automatic out players still in the lineup.  It really becomes a goal about reducing that glaring lineup hole in order to improve the team’s chances.

Cabrera can’t be jettisoned unless he goes on the IL.  So it means adding at least 2 players with even a little bit of punch to help close that hole.

Easily said.  Harder to be done.

Meadows remains a big question mark for the rest of the year.  Carpenter, when he returns, provides some hope.

That leaves Toledo as the best solution.

As we’ve been seeing, esp. with Nevin, putting up great numbers in AAA means little.  It doesn’t automatically translate to MLB.

Many wanted Parker Meadows to stay given his excellent spring training but even he continues to struggle at Toledo trying to hit LHP.  Unrealistic expectations by fans given that his experience was limited to AA.  It is almost impossible to successfully skip AAA and do well in the majors.

And now, there’s the clamoring for Justyn-Henry Malloy to be called up because he is the Mud Hens’ best hitter.  However, he’s only played 26 games at the AAA level.  He needs much more seasoning.

Right now, it appears the only viable solution is time.  Something fans don’t want to hear.

The top AAA players need more experience.  Trades right now are going to be hard.  Waiver wire signings aren’t going to bring anyone with a pop in their bat.

So it’s really waiting for the All-Star break to see how prospects are progressing and maybe effect a trade.

At this point, we have to understand that even the best coaching isn’t going to improve this lineup enough to really matter.  Other teams have so many ways of working around the Tigers’ lineup right now and rendering hitters ineffective. 

Better offensive numbers aren’t going to be put up until the Tigers add a couple threats to their lineup.  But they need to start by minimizing that hole created by one-third of their lineup.

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47 thoughts on “HOLE-Y LINEUP, BATMAN!

  1. As predicted for the last few years, we have a horrible hitting lineup that good AAA teams could beat. I know Im beating a dead horse but I really thought Scott Harris would of added a couple of major league caliber hitters to this roster. Shame on Ilitch, the mastermind.

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    • That has been my point. Now way to even judge Torkelson or Greene in this lineup. Thought a couple of decent (not star) players on shorter term contracts could have made a lot of difference. Instead they expect fans to keep supporting this non hitting team.

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  2. Holly, I know how I feel about the hole(s) in our line-up and what I would do. We also know how the Illitch’s feel about the hole(s). My question for you is, if you were in control, what would you do about each of the hole(s)?

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    • Sorry, as Holly points out, one or two pieces won’t work for this lineup. Back when Judge was a free agent some fans suggested we try to sign him (ignoring all the reasons he would not come here, no matter how much money we could throw at him). In the middle of our lineup Judge’s numbers would have to nosedive.

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      • We shouldn’t have signed an Aaron Judge. That makes no sense. A couple of decent professional hitters would have made a difference I believe.

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  3. Holly’s right about time being the solution. I’ll be very surprised (actually ticked-off) if the “1/3 of the lineup” problem isn’t solved through free agency next off season when the team can jettison its $32M boat anchor. But under performing players like Greene and Torkelson must grow and the farm must produce a few MLB-ready players to really get this ship moving again.

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    • Hi, McWatt (and everyone else) – So allow me to pose this question…..Is the under-performance by Tork and Greene completely their fault or are they struggling in part because the rest of the lineup is weak and unable to support their at-bats in any way? Is it a coincidence that every established player last year “under-performed” or was the “under-performance” in part a result of a very weak lineup that dragged everyone down? – Holly

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      • As you said, chicken or the egg. Juan Soto was Ruthian for the Nationals, but surrounded by studs in San Diego has been “Greenian.” I think we need to quit making excuses for Tork and hope Greene grows a full out beard and starts mashing.

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      • I’m not saying a 38 yr old Cabrera should have performed to his career averages, but all the younger players got worse in 2022. That is systematic – either Hinch not playing guys regularly, too much analytics, poor coaching for the young guys, etc.

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      • Though tempted to quote Dylan and say the answer is “blowing in the wind”, I’d say it’s a combination of weak lineup and players who aren’t totally prepared. But the fix won’t come until next off season at the earliest. Chris must let Harris make some big splash signings to bolster the lineup.

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      • It is not entirely their fault but it is mostly their fault. Yes, pitchers might not give you quite as good of pitches to hit, but it is till them alone in the box with a bat in their hands. Also, you would think there would be a higher percentage of walks for those guys if they were being pitched around.

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  4. We have been saying all Winter we need FAs to improve, not just one or two either. If Baez had hitters behind him his numbers go up. Tigers are a trash fire.

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  5. Tork and Greene under performance is a product of both situations. The poor hitting around them impacts them. But Greene’s swing has gotten longer and both of them miss or foul off middle of the plate fastballs.

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  6. Holly has identified the problem (several incapable hitters) but not the cause. Mr. Harris had the entire off season to work out a graceful exit for Cabrera and Schoop and failed to do so. Yes, we’d have had to pay them but at least we could have moved on and been evaluating other players in their stead.

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    • Hi, BP – As I wrote, the command to play Cabrera came from ownership. Harris’ hands are tied. I would also add that you can’t get rid of players, like Schoop, unless you have a solution in replacing them. – Holly

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      • They could have signed someone to replace him. They have a relatively small payroll and could have signed some medium cost players but decided this would be an evaluation year. How do you evaluate players with this lineup?

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  7. I say to sit Miggy on the bench, and let him pinch hit once a week to finish his career. Then give some youngster(s) a chance to bat DH for hitting experience. We’ve been eating his salary for too long, and yet he deserves respect during his last year.

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  8. As I stated all Spring Training, the Tigers need to sign up to 6 FA’s and pay them between $10-$15 million each because what they have is unwatchable, even with those 3 guys in the lineup. You get what you pay for. One year, even two year contracts is not a way to build a roster.

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  9. I find it odd to single out Cabrera, Schoop and Nevin – 3 part time players as the “holes”. The team doesn’t have many regulars, but when 4 of the 5 are Torkelson, Maton, Greene, and Baez, it makes no difference who the part time players are. Vierling is the only regular with above average stats at the plate.

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  10. As great as miggys first 2/3 of his career was- he’s done nothing the last 7 yrs!! gonna be a real long year but the tigers need to see what they have in greene, tork,carpenter etc. lots more moves coming this off-season.

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  11. When you say “the line-up” you mean the roster, and that’s on Harris. There’s no reason they couldn’t have added a couple of decent big league bats in the offseason for a reasonable cost, but they didn’t. It’s too bad because playing .500 baseball would keep them around in this poor division.

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  12. “But we can’t blame Miggy. ” I can. He should sit down, enjoy the good byes and “coach / mentor”. I can and do blame Miggy.

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    • Hi, Dace – For what do you blame Miggy? Please don’t say for taking $32 mill. It was a contract offered to him by Mr. I. Miggy twisted no one’s arm about that contract. I do remember last year when he speculated that it could be his last year and then he had to turn around immediately and say he “misspoke.” You know who got to him.

      Miggy is under a legal, binding contract and if the team says he has to play, he is legally bound to do so. Harris has no say in this matter – only the Ilitch family does.

      Miggy continuing to play has nothing to do with his performance and everything to do with the turnstiles. Even with his bad numbers, he is still the Tigers #1 draw and overwhelming fan favorite. Even here on TT, the overwhelming majority of voters said that their preference was to see him play his final year. Imagine the rage of those remaining fans if Miggy is removed from the roster. Untold PR damage. When it comes down to it, baseball is a business and is run that way. – Holly

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      • I agree with your point completely. But speaking of P.R. unless Miggy improves with warm weather, the p.r. of seeing a shadow of his former greatness will peter out. P.R. is another area the Tigers need a massive rebuild.

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  13. Well said, Holly! Improving on what hasn’t worked for 5 + years is impossible! Repeating the same thing over and over again is insanity! They need urgency, focus, and pride!

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  14. Signing one or two mid-level free agents isn’t going to do anything for this team. They need some of their AAA players to become regular MLB contributors – and then fill in the gaps with free agents. Until the Tigers get some sort of core, or base, of players, free agents aren’t going to help anything.

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    • Pudge and Magglio signings started the Tigers World Series appearance in 2006. Two players did make a difference. Pudge was a leader too, “I did not come here to lose”.

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      • Hi, All – It’s very hard to compare 2 different rosters at 2 very different points of development. The Tigers right now have very few players who are expected to remain with the team long-term. Back in 2004 and 2005, they already had 9 players who had developed and stayed with the Tigers long-term, including Curtis Granderson and JV. Two players helped back then. But can the same be said for today’s roster? Do we currently have any players showing a track record of success or promise? – Holly

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        • Good point. How long do we have to wait for players to develop? Harris is on a short leash. When Miggy’s contacts falls off next year we should see signings to at least make the team competitive.

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            • Short leash to make the team competitive not World Series contenders. As others have said if he spent some money on FA we may be in the playoff hunt due to the weak division we are in. That would have increased the Tigers NPV, something Chris should have realized.

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  15. “However, he’s only played 26 games at the AAA level” .Many, many ML hitters never play at the AAA level. Only the Tigers seem to think that every player has to follow the same path. Simply isn’t true and obviously not a standard to hold all players to.

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      • I fully understand that but it is not a AAA thing, it is a player thing. He will get no better defensively at AAA than he would in AA. He is a DH type player, probably always will be.

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    • It isn’t only about offense. Half of the game is spent on the field playing defense, yet all too often that part of the game gets ignored by both writers and fans. And yet, what use is a good offense if you give the runs right back because your defense is garbage?

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  16. This all goes back to the issue of AA/ minor league system not doing a better job drafting/developing players and CI being cheap, much like MI from the early 90s until he finally decided to spend $ in 2005 De Javu all over again.

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