MONDAY MUSINGS

by Holly Horning

Throughout the week, there are so many smaller stories hitting the media.  They may be bite-size, but often they are just as important as the headline-grabbing news.  Sometimes, even more.

And that’s what brings me to today.  A way to bring them out in the open and invite conversation about some of these subjects.

And that’s the plan for Mondays.  Keeping track of these mighty little bits that hit my radar throughout the week and sharing them with you today because I know one or more will also resonate with you. So, let’s kick off this week’s musings…


Another week, another former Tiger in the news – and this time, in a big way.  Max Scherzer came back from the IL to pitch and immediately got into trouble with MLB.  He’s now serving a 10-game suspension for violating the sticky stuff rules.  (This is part of an even bigger story given now that 4 of the 5 Mets starting pitchers are unable to pitch due to suspension or injuries, including Justin Verlander.)

Several umpires from last week’s game inspected Max 3 times and ordered him to clean off his hands.  When he came back after the third time, he was found to be so sticky that when they touched his pitching hand, their fingers literally stuck to him. The substance was also dark in color which was overtly suspicious given that rosin is white. The umpires included in their report to the Commissioner that despite trying to scrub off what they had touched, their hands remained sticky for the rest of the day.

Scherzer vehemently denied the claims and even swore on his children’s lives that there was only sweat and rosin on his hand.  But MLB’s statement said: “Based on the umpires’ training to detect rosin on a pitcher’s hands, they concluded that the level of stickiness during the fourth inning check was so extreme that it was inconsistent with the use of rosin and/or sweat alone.”

Why is the issue of sticky stuff so significant?  When it’s used, it significantly increases the spin rate of a baseball which makes it much harder to hit.  In turn, pitcher stats can be unfairly inflated.

And if you’ve been watching or reading the daily baseball news, it seems that teams know Max is breaking the rules.  When the new measures were implemented 3 years ago, Scherzer has been checked more than any other pitcher.  Multiple managers have insisted that he be inspected during some games.  And when so many teams and umps target Max, you know baseball people are talking amongst themselves.

Let’s remember that the former clubhouse manager for the Angels, Bubba Harkins, named Scherzer in his lawsuit against the Angels.  He had been providing sticky stuff to a number of MLB pitchers which included Scherzer, Verlander and Gerritt Cole.

So why the interest in a former Tiger?  Because it makes you wonder if and how much he was using sticky stuff when he pitched for Detroit.  Whether all those awards and stats were honestly earned or if they were tainted.  Of special note are all of the strikeouts he accumulated.  Using sticky stuff increases a pitcher’s strikeouts.  Remember the game against Detroit in which he struck out 20 Tigers and tied an MLB record? 

Don’t you also wonder that if the allegations are true, whether that factor may have led to a different ending in Detroit?  Would a pitcher who played clean – and had fewer record-breaking stats – have stayed in Detroit or at least not created a bidding war for his services?


It’s interesting to read fans’ comments about why certain players should no longer be on the Tigers’ roster or why prospects who are raking in Toledo deserve to be at the MLB level.  All based solely upon their batting average or HRs.

It’s just not that simple.  Over 2 decades ago, looking at a player’s BA was proven to be an unreliable factor.  It was often seen as a product of placement in the lineup combined with the team’s overall offensive strength.  The 4-part slash line is a much better indicator of a player’s offensive talents. 

Yes, looking at offensive numbers is much more interesting than deciphering defensive stats but player development people and managers are looking at the entire package.  Hitting is only 1 part of the skills required to survive in MLB.  Maturity, experience, meeting increasing challenges and expanding hitting and pitching arsenals are also part of the evaluation process.  And so is……

……defense.  So many fans look at the offensive stats but fail to evaluate the defensive metric.

Offense create runs but being defensively weak costs your team runs while padding the score of your opponent.

Consider that performing well in AAA doesn’t mean those same stats will be achieved at the MLB level.  It’s an apples and oranges comparison.  Moving up a level means that the challenges and talent levels of your opponent will be greater.   

Take Parker Meadows for example.  Many wonder why he was sent down to Toledo after raking during spring training.  Some believe he’s needed now in Detroit because of the team’s anemic offense.

The reasons are two-fold.  Very few jump from AA directly into the majors.  But also, Meadows is unable to hit LH pitching.  If he was with the Tigers, the opposing pitchers would quickly have his number.

Then there’s Justyn-Henry Malloy.  Yes, he’s hitting.  But he’s having issues with throwing accuracy.  That’s why he’s not in Detroit.  Yet.

As we learned with Spencer Torkelson, when you send a player up to the bigs too soon, you risk setting them back.  Players will tell you that when you go through slumps, your dependable skills also suffer because you are so focused on the skills giving you problems.

But it’s just not issues with hitting and defense.  Proper development of a player has layers to it.  Can he hit both LH and RH pitching?  Can he hit both fastballs and off-speed pitches?  And if so, how long has he been doing it?  Just a couple weeks, a month or longer?

Is he a defensive asset or liability?  Will he help save runs or will he cost the team with runs allowed?  Does his defensive range fit into the position and complement the defensive abilities of those who play next to him?  Does he have speed and solid footwork?

And if he hits RH or LH, does it fit in with the team’s current needs?

There are so many factors that determine a player’s readiness for the majors that go well beyond the batting average.


If you were watching the Tigers 5-game winning streak last week, did you notice the changes?  The team’s batting habits were changing.

Walks went up, strikeouts went down.  Fewer swings outside the strike zone.  Plate discipline improved.

It appears the message about controlling the strike zone was being heard.

Remember all those years when Tiger batters made 3 quick outs?  When the opposing pitcher used 10 pitches or less to get them all out?  When their half inning lasted an entire 5 minutes?  When you were tired of hearing “three  up and three down”?

The lineup has been working counts.  They were swinging at fewer bad pitches.

Both Spencer Torkelson and Nick Maton battled pitchers into giving up double-digit pitches before they both hit HRs – to win the games.

Even Javy Baez took 12 pitches – count ‘em, 12! – before hitting a double that drove in 2 runs to win the game.

It’s a step in the right direction.  But it doesn’t mean that the lineup won’t revert back to its old habits (as it seems to be) as they started doing again over the weekend.  It takes a lot of reps to turn new habits into ones that become instinctive and second nature.   

Improvement isn’t going to be linear.  This team, especially early on, is going to ride that infamous roller coaster we’ve been discussing recently.

And hopefully that roller coaster is going to level out at some point this season.

Which one of these stories resonated the most with you?

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32 thoughts on “MONDAY MUSINGS

  1. Holly you mention how batting average is just one part of the slash line these days, but it is the part most of the casual fans (or older ones) understand. I noticed that the Bally Broadcast when they do lineups shows OPS instead of batting average when watching a game with my son this weekend. Honestly, I couldn’t tell you with this stat alone how each playing is doing. Thoughts? More discussion?

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    • Hi, Steve – You just gave me the blog topic for tomorrow. 🙂 I’ll address each of the 4 slash line stats and define them. Then I’ll go through the roster and sort each of the players into how well they are doing given the big picture. Thanks for making my day easier! – Holly

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      • Holly
        That would be very helpful for us batting average guys. Also could you say a little how these stats are compiled? By whom and who owns them. How many stats are developed for one at bat when batter swings and misses and when he hits a fly for a hit. Thx

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      • That would be awesome explaining the slash lines. I believe the broadcast switched to OPS because the batting average of each player is so low.

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        • That was my take. I figured that BA’s were so bad that they decided to put up the larger OPS numbers which by comparison are larger and look better to the unpracticed eye. I am sure Holly will explain, but most of those aren’t currently good either.

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  2. Thanks for the take on analytics. It’s just a more comprehensive method analyzing skills needed. As for max methinks he protest too much and like you say, watch how the other teams react.

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  3. Other considerations for minor league hitting are how they get their hits. Are they getting hits against only fastballs? Are they getting hits against only the weakest pitchers? Are they only hitting mistake pitches, of which there are far more in the minors?

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  4. I agree that batting average doesn’t tell the whole story, but it’s right in line with the talent level on this Tiger team. It would be different if they had anyone hit .220 but hit for power and walked a lot, or was a defensive wizard. Regarding Malloy, I fear that if they bring him up, he may or may not struggle adjusting to the MLB level, but he will likely be platooned, and the sporadic playing time will hurt his progress.

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    • You bet Pondo, leave J-Hen in Toledo as he’s having AAA success hitting in the high .370’s and leading the International Leagues in BB’s averaging a little over 1 per game. I think we may be hasty until we start playing teams who weren’t over .500 in 22 as we have for most of the year. Besides J-Hen flew through the minors in 22 with little time in AAA.

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  5. If it can be proven that Scherzer and Verlander cheated by using forbidden materials on the ball, there should be serious punishment to them, and probably others. They’ve become famous wealthy superstars, perhaps only because of cheating, which is corrupt fraud.

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  6. They were getting men on base in Baltimore, but couldn’t get a clutch hit to bring them home. I think loading the bases with no outs and coming up empty is more frustrating than a three up and three down inning.

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    • I guess it’s a choice between being frustrated or bored. The only time 3 up/3 down is interesting is when it’s both pitchers doing it – dueling to see who blinks first.

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  7. The main reason they are showing OPS and not batting average is that most or the Tiger team is hitting below the Mendoza line. As for Scherzer, Gaylord Perry openly cheated for years and is in the Hall. People are gonna cheat, occasionally they get caught.

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  8. It might be interesting to see how Max fares once he returns from his Timeout. If the umpires are checking him closely, and the Mets fans and writers are scrutinizing his performances (along with most other baseball observers), it will be time for Max to vindicate himself. If he can. No pressure, right?

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    • Ever since Max took himself out of a Playoff Game when he played in Detroit (let alone that he did it again years later with another team), I lost all respect for him. Knowing now that he’s a cheater on top of being a “me only” player, I feel nothing but disgust for him. He’s just another Barry Bonds, but on the other side of the plate (once a cheater, always a cheater)!

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    • Max has had a credibility issue for a long time, imo, so I’m glad to see it finally catching up to him. The final straw for me was when he left here and tried to claim money had nothing to do with his departure. Mmm hmmm, sure, Max.

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  9. If J-HM is having throwing issues, why don’t they give him some reps at 1B? Less throwing involved, other prospects are moved around to improve defensive versatility, and the Tigers’ current 1B doesn’t have a legit prospect pushing him. Seems to be no-brainer.

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  10. Did the start of sticky substance for a string of Tiger pitchers begin with one of Verlander’s first mentors? A certain Kenny Rogers who had a sticky issue in the World Series. I am sure the issue far predates that but his effectiveness with it may have made it popular with an era of Tiger pitchers.

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  11. Holly, Glad to hear that you’re going to explain slash lines and talk about the sl’s for current Tigers. Could you also give career slash lines for Kaline, Horton, and Gibson for comparative purposes?

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  12. If a player is brought up to the big leagues and then is sent back down to AAA, is that a problem? Might one of the reasons for bringing them to MLB be to give them a taste of it?

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    • Good question but I think the answer lies in consistency of playing everyday, aka Ryan Kriedler. Prospects need to play and can’t get lost in the shuffle of winning today’s game.

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  13. Holly, would you also consider doing a write up on the more important defensive stats? I find that the baseball writers tend to ignore defense despite it being an equally important part of the game. After all, consider how often the best defensive player loses out on a gold glove because his offensive numbers weren’t considered good enough; but then, silly me thought the award was a fielding glove, not a batting one.

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  14. The bottom line is “see the ball, hit the ball and to quote an old timer (Rabbit Maxwell maybe?) “and “hit em where they ain’t”, none of which the current roster seems too good at the moment

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