WHERE I STAND

by Holly Horning

The Tigers right now are an enigma.  They are bad but they are still an enigma in so many ways that don’t include performance. 

We should learn much more about where this team is headed after the 2023 season.

But in the meantime, they have a “newish” owner and manager, a brand new President of Baseball Operations, tons of new coaches and a mostly new Front Office.

And we can attach question marks to each and every one of them.

For now.

Despite all of this, so many fans are making proclamations about this team after only 2 months and before the season’s first pitch has yet to be thrown.

I also find it interesting that so many fans find that because I don’t rip Chris Ilitch 24/7, that I’m a fan of his. Or that I am completely sold on Scott Harris.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

I am not a fan of absolutes.  I find that the truth is much more likely to be somewhere in the middle and that it is often contained within both sides of opinion.

I don’t believe in nice tidy little bows where I either have to completely agree or disagree on any topic Tigers-related.

But now that it appears the team is starting a new chapter, it’s time to set the record straight on how I’ve seen the team – both past, present and future.

First of all, the only absolute belief I have is how horrible Al Avila and his long-term clique of buddies were. They all set this team back terribly and it will take more than a year or two to mitigate the damage done.

As for Chris Ilitch, the jury is still out – but time is also running out. Parking lots are one thing, baseball teams are another. 

I believe there were a number of issues that complicated the process of running the team.  The fact that his father left a complete mess of the team that was hemorrhaging money with MLB’s highest (by far) operating expenses.  The team became completely unsustainable. 

Covid didn’t help either.  A year of no fans followed by a year of limited attendance created significant uncertainty.  Those 2 years were not the time to make big changes when you have no idea what’s coming down the road.

I do fully question Chris’ retention of Al Avila beyond that last Covid year of 2021. 

No owner is going to hire a new GM to tear down a team and no capable candidate is going to take that job which is why Al was kept during those years of salary dumping. And you’re certainly not going to decide that the 2 Covid seasons is the right time to broom your team of its GM and Front Office.

Ideally, Ilitch should have made the change when he hired A. J. Hinch if it weren’t for Covid complications.  And yes, it was Ilitch who pushed for Hinch to be hired.  He gets props for finally hiring a competent and modern manager with no ties to the Tigers.

But I do wonder whether Avila’s status with the Ilitch family is what kept him around past his expiration date.  It was well known that he was a “favorite son” to Mr. I and preferred over Dave Dombrowski.  Mike had promised the GM job to Al years ago.  The family, which comprises the trust that runs the team, may have been reluctant to banish someone so close to them or to go against their father’s last wishes until it became crystal clear that he had to go.

We will never know.

I see promise in Chris’ significant investment in the infrastructure of the Tigers.  He’s the first owner since ??? to do that.  It’s a very good sign and shows his intent towards this team.

I’ll be holding any further decision on the owner until the end of the 2023 season.  I want to see what happens this year.  I want to see if he invests in better players in the next off-season.

I will also give Chris credit for going outside the organization (unlike his dad) and finding the team’s first PoBO.  For hiring someone who would shake up the corporate culture and bring in new faces and fresh voices.  He is the first owner in decades to do this.

Turning now to Scott Harris, I’m not yet giving him any credit for what he has done.  I will – hopefully – at the end of the year.  Everyone deserves to establish a work history in a new job before they are judged. It’s ridiculous to judge him on a handful of initial moves made within his first weeks on the job.

But he appears to be promising.  He appears to be in control in both action and voice.  He is poised and professional unlike his predecessor. And that’s a refreshing change.

He’s got impeccable credentials and is highly touted by the best in baseball. We’re talking Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer and Farhan Zaidi. The biggest names in the biz.

And no, I’m not doing a Randy Smith comparison.  That was 27 years ago – and things have changed dramatically in the hiring process.  Back then, jobs were handed out primarily because of who you knew.  In this case, Smith advanced primarily because of his father’s reputation in the game.

Harris is quite the opposite.  An education and advanced degree in economics and sports with a resume that boasts employment with MLB, 2 internships with teams and helping the Cubs wins a ring before moving onto the Giants.

I like the hiring.  Harris is the first head of the Tigers who has the bona fide credentials to build a sustainable team.  Hiring him was a solid move.

We’ll see just how solid it was after this coming season.

But I’m also happy with all of the new hires for scouting, drafting and player development.  No one got the job because they were former Tigers.  It’s a complex mix of guys with a variety of degrees, experiences and backgrounds.  It is the first time the Tigers have forsaken the strategy of hiring based upon friendships and loyalty.

Again, these are the initial first impressions.  Formal evaluations will commence after the draft, new farm system rankings and prospect promotions.

Last, but not least, is A. J. Hinch.  First, I hold no grudge against the former Astro manager given the evidence that his former boss was encouraging the cheating and keeping Hinch out of the loop.

He’s a solid hire but has been handcuffed due to Al Avila’s incompetency.  We haven’t seen the real manager yet.  I’m hoping we will this year.

Last year was a failure but the lion’s share of blame needs to go to Avila.  One can only manage the talent one is given.  And A. J. got very little.  The proof is in the fact that out of 16 players cut, only 2 of them got new contracts.  The rest are returning to the minors or unemployed.  And the farm system is ranked dead last once again with only a handful of prospects making the top 100 lists.

This will be the first legitimate year in which to evaluate Hinch.  I’ve wiped the slate clean and the new analysis starts on Opening Day. It will be a much more honest and accurate assessment.

Overall, the Tigers, even during their best years a decade ago, have remained outdated and antiquated.  The excessive money spent on free agents only covered up the multitude of problems.

But this team has never had a sense of urgency.  Always among the last to change or adopt competitive strategies. And they watched their window close every year in the end yet failed to make any significant changes.

It appears, at least now, that this habit has been kicked to the curb.  I see the widespread brooming of personnel and the hiring of a completely different type of executive as overdue welcome signs.

I haven’t been this positive about the team in years.  But I am also being cautiously optimistic.

Things are headed in the right direction, it appears at first glance.  But I’m not etching anything in stone until the last pitch of the 2023 season has been thrown.

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29 thoughts on “WHERE I STAND

  1. Good thoughts Holly. I don’t think Harris should have to do it all though. He should find a GM at some point during the year like James Click perhaps to help him out. Harris is using his MBA degree to try and get people on the pitching staff that are cheaper than Chafin and Fulmer to do the same job as they did.

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  2. Holly, you say you’re not a fan of absolutes and that the truth is much more likely to be somewhere in the middle. But you’ve stated numerous times in recent posts that the Tigers farm is dead last, acknowledging only Keith Law’s rating while ignoring other rankings that put them in the 20 – 25 range. Why do you cling solely to Law?

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  3. Brutal analysis of Avila. That said, absolutely correct. I now have trust in the organization and whether they succeed or not in the next 3 years, they did the right thing!

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    • I think the buck stopped with Illitch and if we credit Hinch for winning in Houston with amazing players, his hands are not clean of ’22. Whether its Ausmus, Leyland, or Avila I am not keen on pinning the blame for a complete failure on one dude.

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  4. “Outdated and antiquated…this team has never had a sense of urgency…always among the last to change or adopt competitive strategies”, over all of these years and generations, yet we all love this franchise so much! Just think how sweet it will be when our Tigers are roaring again!

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  5. I’m intrigued by the upcoming season because it’s packed with so many changes and unknowns. Sure, it could be a disaster but Harris and his staff have a plan that makes sense and are working to implement it. I’m going to stay cautiously optimistic as the year unfolds – and happy the era of the “old boys club” is over at last.

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  6. Thanks for your message holly. Guess SH has left the ‘minor league of management’ and now is like a rookie player in his rookie season. Alone in the captain seat. Like any player , or AA before, we won’t know if he can handle it till he does, or doesn’t.

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  7. Until the rubber hits the road, all talk is just estimates or predictions. I find encouragement that Scott Harris has made the changes in the front office that he said he would and Hope that his roster assembled will be able to produce his promised strikezone dominance. But I am most encouraged by the coaching infrastructure that has been assembled for the MLB team on the field.

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    • That is a very fair and measured expectation. I have such a bad taste in my mouth from all the tanking and failing that I find it hard not to be cynical. But I am hopeful Harris can assemble a team block by block rather than by grand gestures.

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  8. This is a well-reasoned piece. I think, however, Holly strains too hard to distance Chris Illitch from the Avila train wreck, making Al the scapegoat for all that went wrong. With me he starts in a deep hole with Rebuild 2.0, having taken the first step out by allowing the organization to finally be modernized.

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  9. I agree 100% with where Holly stands. I haven’t been so optimistic since the John Fetzer/Jim Campbell/Bill Lajoie era. It’s going to take time but not 5 years because today it seems they can analyze and develop so much faster now.

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  10. Good assessment. Let’s hope for a better 2023 and then keep building on it. Are we completely done with the old boys network? Let’s hope. I don’t want to hear about Leyland at spring training and certainly not sitting next to Harris!

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    • I understand what you’re saying Joe, but I sure would like to go back to JL’s days where his team put 3MM fans in Comerica 4 out of his first 7 years with the team. Those were good times!

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  11. I still have no sense of the most important factor; a sincere expectation to win the game when you take the field. Harris picked up some interesting pitchers from the scrap pile. He can only do so much.

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  12. Holly, it is good for you to clarify where you stand. As an every day follower, however, the blogs seem adamant that 1) Avila was completely incompetent, 2) Harris is some kinda of baseball genius wunderkind, and 3) nothing is ever Hinch’s or Fetter’s fault. I know that’s isn’t what you intend to say, but that is what it appears by reading the blog.

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    • Hi, Pondo – To answer your questions, I would first ask that you name what Al Avila has done correctly. 🙂 As for the other questions, please tell me where I have praised Hinch’s managerial in-game style. I have stated my beliefs above about him.

      I have clearly stated my opinions yet there are readers who insert their own emotions and read what they want to see, which is often exaggerated. I can’t tell you how many readers today are refusing to accept what I have written because it doesn’t align with their beliefs.

      The purpose of today’s blog is to clearly illustrate my standings in order to correct the assumptions being made by a number of readers. There are too many who make all or nothing assumptions about my stances on certain issues and people. I appreciate your comments and hope everyone reads this response. – Holly

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      • I appreciate you blogs and insights and always look forward to starting my day with them. You are not wrong in criticizing Avila, but he seems to be a scapegoat for everything that’s ever gone wrong with the Tigers. I will say that Harris has inherited a much better situation than Avila did.

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  13. SH has made what appears to be very nice changes in the minor league system. But those changes will take time to see fruition. At least three years.

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  14. A excellent assessment on all points by Holly. One tiny disagreement– the final pitch of 2023 is a good assessment point, but next off-season will tell us much about CI and Harris. Last off-season CI spent on free agents believing the rebuild was over. CI sat out this off-season for good reason. Next off-season will be Harris’ first true off-season for molding the team’s future.

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  15. This season is a clean slate for me. New coaches, trainers and management style in place…now it’s up to them to show us progress. I’m expecting a “2 steps forward, 1 step back” kind of season.

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  16. Having just thumbed through my favorite fantasy pub’s top 100 prospects and finding not one Tiger makes me think it might take SH two or three years to put a .500 team together. Have no choice but to trust the process here.

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  17. Very nice summary provided by Holly. It is a measured response that is consistent with past TT blogs. I do believe CI wants a winning team, but he should not get a pass for retaining AA so long. Harris should be given chance to repair the damage before judgment is passed on him, but he should be on a short leash.

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    • Maybe he does, but he has never shown the willingness to make the decisions or take the actions that lead to a winning team, or really, even a reasonably competetive one.

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    • I don’t think the intent is to give CI a pass; rather it may not be solely his decision. Could very well be some of the trust did not want to can Uncle Al. I can just hear someone saying “well Dad wouldn’t do that.”

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  18. I put the failure of the Tigers on CI for the time he’s been in charge. I am not a fan of AJ. Can AJ get the players ready to start the season. I like what I’ve seen so far from Harris but we need to see it happen on the field.

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  19. Wow. So many people conceding that the Tigers have been a complete disaster in the past, but expecting significant progress by the new guy in one season?

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  20. I agree with Holly – cautious optimism, hope for genuine signs of improvement, and temporarily reserved judgement. The next 10 months will tell us a lot about this organization, its new direction, and the owner’s commitment.

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