VISIONS – AND CONTRADICTIONS

By: Holly Horning

What a difference a year makes.

Last year at this time, the Tigers were stuck in neutral once again with a team that was making no in-roads on rebuilding to a competitive level  which started (generously) in 2016.  A manager and an assorted cast of hangers-on who were along for the ride – and pretty much nothing else given that the majority of them were plucked off the unemployment line.

Flash forward to this year and the Tigers have actually hired a manager and coaches in high demand.  And we’re seeing the results that top talent creates.

We’re also hearing the players, almost on a daily basis, sing their praises.

Yes, this is the best move the Tigers have made in a looooong time.

Promising?  Yes.  But in true Tiger fashion, this organization moves at a snail’s pace.  Al Avila is definitely no Farhan Zaidi, now leading the San Francisco Giants, who has taken his team back to competitiveness in just over 2 years.

Nevertheless, hiring Hinch and allowing him to bring in his own coaches was a solid first move.  And more than a few fans see a glimmer of promise for the future.

Al Avila has been remaking the roster and now he’s remade the coaching staff.  What’s next?

Does our GM have an improved vision? 

Does he have a concrete plan for taking this team to the next level? 

And does he have a willing partner in owner Chris Ilitch?

That remains to be seen.

The small step forward with Hinch is promising but will the addition work effectively with what else is going on within the organization? 

Will the manager and coaching staff be synced with player development, the Front Office and others? 

Will they share the same vision for competing as all of the other components of the organization?

In other words, is everyone saying, believing and doing the same thing? 

Is everyone’s work complementing and bolstering the work done by the other departments?

Maybe not.

And this is what concerns me right now.  The Tigers aren’t yet showing a consistent vision between all of their departments.  In fact, there are some major contradictions between some of these groups.

And this is very important because every organization that wants to be successful must have a singular vision.  They have to pull their oars in the same direction and at the same time.  Each department has to have an operating procedure that is also identical to all of the others.

You can’t have different visions of how to get there.  You can’t have different philosophies that fight each other.

Yet, in some instances, the Tigers have just that.

There are some major contradictions going on within this organization.  And quite frankly, I don’t understand how they can co-exist with one another and create a culture of winning.

Here are my top 5:

SPENDING

Chris Ilitch and Al Avila have stated that they will spend “when the time is right.”  But they aren’t spending at all now and evidence shows that cost-cutting lives on.  Even when they have glaring holes and not even a warm body to put in that slot.    Last year’s payroll (before the Covid-related adjustments) was $107 million and this year sits at $79 mill.  Another $28 million slashed.

The Tigers were MLB’s only team to not sign a full-time first baseman for this year.  And you have to ask why.  The talent was out there but the wallet was not.  And signing Renato Nunez to a minor league contract with the hope that he would make the team on the cheap didn’t work out.  It was a Hail Mary move.

DEFENSE

The organization keeps saying that defense up the middle is what saves games but in the same breath, the Front Office puts Wilson Ramos, a utility player, several centerfield question marks and Jonathan Schoop together.  Schoop is the only one remaining. 

And that SS position?  They went into the season without a viable candidate and still have no one who can even adequately fill that role.  No surprise that the Tigers rank dead last in MLB for the SS position with a -15 DFS and not a single prospect anywhere close to coming up to solve the problem.  (See Spending.)

LEYLAND

He’s still around, still a daily presence and still has Al Avila’s ear.   The same guy who doesn’t believe in analytics or any advanced theories about how to evaluate talent despite the organization’s development and expansion of their analytics department.  He just returned from a trip with Avila to Toledo to evaluate talent and discuss Matt Manning.  He is the oil to A. J. Hinch’s water.  How can the two of them possibly co-exist and both have Avila’s attention?

THE CATCHER

The Tigers are bringing up a number of talented pitching prospects, so why does the team sign a catcher known for his defensive struggles?  He was signed for his bat, not his glove or strategy skills.  So who is going to lead Mize, Manning, Skubal and Turnbull?  While Rogers has stepped up, the Tigers spent $2 mill for Ramos to play 35 games before receiving his unconditional release.  It was a very strange move.  Who exactly made that decision?  It wouldn’t have been recommended by Hinch.

TRADING TALENT

Once again, we’re reading in multiple publications that Tigers are on the trading block.  Top talent that has either gotten too expensive or too good.  I’m not the only one who thinks this has become an endless cycle that only serves to spin the wheels of this organization in perpetuity. (And btw, it keeps certain people employed when you keep moving the goal line.)

Sources report that Matthew Boyd is being shopped (for salary reasons) but what will the Tigers do for their rotation given all of the injuries and the need to plan weekly bullpen starts because they don’t have enough starters? 

Jonathan Schoop is a highly desirable trade candidate but who will fill in at second base if he departs?

Robbie Grossman also makes the rumors list.  If he also leaves, who will take his spot, especially as a leadoff man and clubhouse leader?

And believe it or not, Spencer Turnbull is in the trade mix according to multiple sources.  Because he’d fetch a really nice return.  This is a whole new level of crazy.

When does all this craziness stop?  When will the Tigers stop the rebuild and start working with the proven talent they already have on the roster?  It’s an endless cycle of constant tearing down and developing that will never meet the goal of authentically competing.

Hinch can only do so much.  He can only work with the talent he is given.

Maybe this is why he has an opt-out clause.  Can you imagine the headlines if he were to leave the organization after 2022?  The embarrassment?  The shame placed upon this organization?

Maybe this forces the Tigers to solidify their vision and address their competing and contradictory elements at the end of this year.

Let’s hope so.

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  2. Great points, Holly. Suspect Cris will wait until Miggy is off the books at the end of 2023 to open his wallet. And as to replacing Schoop, keep an eye on Kody Clemens who appears to be on the fast track at Toledo. This off season will be telling when AJ has his say.

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  3. Not sure the Giants are a good comp. They’re the 2nd oldest team in MLB, only 1 of the top 5 starting pitchers is under 30 and their top 5 in plate appearances are ages 30, 33, 34, 34, & 35. They didn’t do a complete teardown.

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    • Hi, Spartan – Is the goal to do a complete teardown or is it to be competitive? The top teams never do a complete rebuild. Zaidi made a zillion changes, brought in new personnel, etc. and brought the team back to almost .500 within 2 years. He knows how to get results and was hired specifically to keep the Giants seriously contending. He’s created winners everywhere he goes – A’s, Dodgers and now Giants. Give me Zaidi’s talents over Avila’s any day! – Holly

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  4. Al Avila did not change, the real GM in charge right now is Hinch. Any owner will open up his wallet when he thinks he has the right man who can spend his money the right way like Mr I did with DD. I have to think with AJ this is the right time. If the Tigers only think about trading the majority of the players mentioned above, it means fans will never see a competitive team under the helm of Chris Ilith.

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  5. As long as Leyland is involved with major decisions you can forget about developing a winner. He fell flat on his face in two WS with loaded teams. His only WS win was with a powerhouse Miami team that won by the skin of its teeth and a sac fly.. He’s a proven loser in big games.

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  6. Great analysis. It’s frustrating to actually enjoy watching the Tigers be competitive for the first time in years and having the announcers talk about how much value to other teams Schoop and others have. Hinch was a great move by Avila but he won’t stay unless he’s supported. The lack of a major league shortstop is ridiculous.

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      • Hi, DD2 – Leyland had nothing to do with Iggy. It was reported that Iggy was “difficult” and we did see him fight and spit at James McCann in the dugout. When you’ve been with 4 teams in the last 4 years, and are as talented as Iggy is, there is always something else going on that overrides talent. – Holly

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  7. Holly,nice thorough article. I was excited to see AJ Hinch signed by the Tigers,and all the good coaches as well. However we still have the 3 headed monster of Littlefield,Chadd and Avila. All proven losers. This compounded by Chris Ilitch. Im afraid more of this nonsensical cycle of incompetence will continue.

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  8. I see more than a glimmer; I see a competitive cultural change that fights to the last strike. I see a manager, with perhaps less than total control, make tough decisions by moving on from Ramos, Jones, Stewart, etc. In Avila I see a solid scout and a wannabee GM who maybe is handcuffed by his owner. When does he start to find keepers rather than placeholders and when does he bundle prospects for a player and stop losing potential players off the 40 man?

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  9. The culture and attitude change is overblown to me. I dont think it was that bad with Gardenhire, especially since he had less to work with than Hinch has this season. I went to a Tigers luncheon early June of 2018 where fans were raving to Gardy about that team flirting with .500. Talent wins MLB games and Hinch has some good young pitchers and couple of veterans who have carried the club lately.

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    • Sorry Chris but I couldn’t disagree more. Culture and attitude are very important and you can see a change in the Tigers. Plus, you never heard any player compliment Gardenhire or McClendon. AJ may have more talent but many believe it’s because he and the coaches are developing the talent that was already there.

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  10. As usual, you are spot on Holly. At what point do we start a “real” rebuild and stop trading away all our players that might be the very pieces that we need to begin a “rebuild”?? Why on earth would they even consider trading Spencer Turnbull?? We won’t even mention the fact that Avila would be doing the trading and so far he has been fleeced mightily.

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    • Sandy, are you the astute lady who was a frequent caller to Shawn Beligan; if so your analysis was spot on then and now. To me the Bull should be untouchable as his demeanor and drive are a poster child for AJ’S cultural change. He along with the big three and Joey Wentz should be the rotation for 22. It’s time to move some so called prospects for a player. Hopefully, AL will be mum and use his scouting talent to get a reasonable return.

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      • Hi naldo. Unfortunately, I am not that astute lady who was a frequent caller to Shawn Beligan. I am however in complete agreement with everything you just said:-)

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  11. Holly, why doesn’t Zach Short get more time at SS? He’s only been in a handful of games and from what I remember, handled the spot well. He hit a little more than most of the team and drew a few walks too. He may not be a long term solution, but better than Niko and his repeated errors at SS. I’m sure marketing would have fun with “Short at Short” as well.

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    • Thanks Steve. I have been wondering the exact same thing. Niko is horrible at SS (to go along with his anemic batting avg). I would much rather see Zach Short in that position. He certainly couldn’t do any worse then Niko!!

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    • You are so right, Zach is one of those dusty gems that plays better under the big lights in the show. He’s recently found some footing and has upped his performance for the Hens. I understand the promotion of Issac and the desire to see if he’s viable at short and to have a bat that eventually plays but if defense rules let’s put Short at short because he could find success being a defense first offense second aka., Cool hand Jake.

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  12. Holly great questions. Still look at tigers same as lions (62-current) untill Chris stops mismanageing team they same way the Ford’s have the lions all these years.

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