A HUNCH ABOUT HINCH

By:  Holly Horning

It’s interesting to read fans’ comments about the hiring of A. J. Hinch. Fans who are ready to write him – and the team – off completely because of the Astros cheating scandal. Others who are willing to give him another chance because, afterall, no one is perfect and shouldn’t be permanently punished by 1 single incident in an otherwise stellar life.

Matthew Boyd put it best when he said we shouldn’t judge someone on a single bad decision. We should judge them on what they do going forward.

And that’s where I’m headed. I’m reserving judgment for the moment. I’m waiting to see.

Especially because this story about the Astros isn’t over yet. It’s because former GM, Jeff Luhnow, has filed suit against Astros owner, Jim Crane and MLB.  And in turn, those in the know have started talking again. How soon before they are called to testify?

But let’s start at the beginning. First of all, Hinch was not found guilty of cheating. He was reprimanded for not doing enough. That is a significant point to remember.

But in all of this, absolutely no one in the media has questioned why Hinch didn’t do more. Why he didn’t have meetings with the team or the instigators with his concerns? Absolutely no one even asked him if he went to his GM to report the cheating.

That’s what I found to be most puzzling. It would have been my first question.

We know he hated the organized cheating being planned and led by Carlos Beltran and Alex Cora. He destroyed 2 tv monitors with a baseball bat, only to have them replaced each time.

So why did A.J. keep to himself? Maybe because he knew that Luhnow and others in the Front Office were in on it.

The investigation report by Rob Manfred showed evidence that Luhnow knew things were going on. There were memos, texts and emails as proof. And it showed that some of his technology people discussed with him the “dark arts” program being launched and operational.

So isn’t it plausible that Hinch knew he couldn’t go to Luhnow because his boss was personally involved in the cheating? And if he did, wouldn’t he think that absolutely nothing would be done? That even his job, his coaches’ jobs and the team’s trajectory that year would be in jeopardy?

Don’t you think he would have weighed all the options before deciding what to do?

And what about the owner? As we’ve seen historically, when you bypass your GM and go directly to the owner, it doesn’t bode well for the manager.

Several former GMs waded into the did-he-or-didn’t-he know about Luhnow. All of them found it peculiar that a GM wouldn’t know what was going on since he is the final exec to sign off on expenses. First, for approving extra expenses, equipment and electrical work to install tvs. Then, to pay to have them replaced twice.

How could he not know? And if someone was asking for money in order to fund an illegal action under false pretenses, why weren’t they fired?

There are just too many unanswered questions. Or, maybe MLB just doesn’t want us to know the full story because they want this sordid mess to go away as quickly as possible.

But now that Luhnow is suing the sport and his former boss, people who have worked with him are talking. And they are all saying he knew what was going on and even approved the work being done.

And these people are universally saying that Luhnow should just shut up and go away. But for the former GM, being sorry, repentant and diplomatic are not in his wheelhouse. He is considered to be the most unlikeable GM, even before this mess happened. He threw numerous employees under the bus. His boss, employees and players. And now MLB.

But not Hinch. He did not once point the finger at him. Why would that be?

But never fear. If his lawsuit that requests his remaining $22 million salary be restored and that MLB acknowledge they set him up in exchange for this scandal to go away as quickly as possible, there will be testimony.

And A. J. conceivably could be vindicated for why he didn’t do what many expected of him as the manager.

It’s interesting that this lapse in leadership contrasts directly with his reputation as a leader and mentor of many. For his entire career, he has supported baseball people with promise. He’s focused on the young and talented in all parts of the sport and made hundreds of friends. It’s remarkable to see how people have rallied in support of him getting the Tigers’ job.

And it helps that A. J. has completely owned his actions, been very honest about the entire scandal and has been authentic in his contriteness.

Which brings us now to Detroit.

You can be sure the organization did their homework on him. A team that is highly risk-adverse took a huge step primarily because they saw someone who wouldn’t let them down. They felt that his role in Houston was an aberration.

It also helps that one of his best friends is Scott Bream, who has known him forever since they worked together with the Padres.

His former manager, Alan Trammell, also gave his opinion, as did Kirk Gibson, his former bench coach. All were in support.

And Justin Verlander did as well. Hinch called him a “great friend” and it’s clear that JV holds him in high regard.

Could all these men be wrong about who A. J. Hinch really is?

Unlikely.

But let’s see how this year unfolds. Especially if the Luhnow/MLB lawsuit goes to trial.

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26 thoughts on “A HUNCH ABOUT HINCH

  1. Rest assured that risk adverse Al Avila wouldn’t have hired Hinch if there were any indication that Hinch was the instigator, a prime facilitator or otherwise responsible for the Astros cheating scandal. So, if that’s your point Holly, you nailed it. My only hope is that what Hinch and his coaching staff bring to the Tigers isn’t diluted by skewed reporting on the scandal, or more importantly by that and incompetent management above him.

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  2. The logic Holly has used to exonerate A. J. Hinch with (that Luhnow knew everything so Hinch could do nothing) would, in like turn, seem to mostly exonerate Justin Verlander as well. How could either guy call out anyone if the GM, and possibly the owner, knew of and approved of everything?

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  3. I think Hinch deserves another chance and I really have no issues with the Tigers hiring him. Like you Holly, I have a lot of questions that I would like to see answered. I think the biggest issue is just a reality of pro sports today, especially MLB. The star players run the show and a manager has very little leverage. If you have a “my way or the highway” attitude, you will be the one hitting the highway.

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    • So, Justin a true “superstar” who knew what was going on, wanted his ring more than exposing the truth and now he wants to tell the truth with a ring on his finger. That is someone I go to for a reference about hiring a management team. Good thing he came to Detroit we don’t have any real superstars so he may get a chance to manage.

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      • Hi, Pete – In all fairness, JV didn’t arrive to the Astros until the beginning of September 2017 with less than a month left in the season. And as a pitcher, not a hitter, it would have taken him awhile to see what was going on, esp. considering that he sits in the bullpen, not the dugout, when he’s not starting. It’s not like the team was flaunting the sign stealing openly. It’s highly unlikely that he would have known what was going on that year given his role and last-minute addition to the team which is why MLB did not interview him in the investigation. – Holly

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      • The only reason people are baring their soul is because they all got busted. Everyone involved has to look in the mirror. JV has always been a vocal guy about the integrity of the game, so it’s a really bad look for him. Time will tell if Hinch deserved his second chance or not. Manfred’s discipline towards the players involved speaks volumes.

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  4. I must wonder why Hinch didn’t go to Crane, Luhnow and all the other co-conspirators and say, “This is going to stop now, or I am going public about it!” If they had fired him, there would have been a long line of teams ready to hire him.

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    • The show of ethics alone would have GM’s clamoring to get him. And, Holly “You can be sure the organization did their homework on him”…. I’m not so sure after 5 (more?) years of this group’s slowness to adapt, lack of communication, JL behind-the-scene’s running the show, etc that I can be sure they did.

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    • nocynic, I am not so sure. I don’t believe any Owner wants to have a “rat” on his payroll going public, or threatening to go public, about my team. I think he would be black-listed if were to go public about this. I haven’t heard that it continued into 2018, so maybe he was able to influence others to stop it.

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      • Interesting point on 2018. Alex Cora left Houston for the Red Sox after 2017 making it plausible that Cora was the chief architect (apologies if that is already generally acknowledged).

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      • You may be right. But the PR black eye that teams (especially unsuccessful teams) would get for not taking him just because he had the courage to blow the whistle would be a strong incentive not to blackball him. Also, odds are that the Astros would not have called his bluff; the PR nightmare they are contending with now would pale in comparison with what they would have encountered if they fired Hinch and he came forward with what he knew.

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  5. Most cheaters are sorry when they get caught. If the cheating was as well known as it appears Hinch was a major part of the problem. He would probably still be there cheating if not for ex-Tiger Mike Fiers who came forward only AFTER being traded. Everyone deserves a second chance.

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  6. Wish AJ had gone public if he was stonewalled by Luhnow – but then he likely would have been “Mientkiewicz’d.” Integrity can be hard. So is forgiveness. We’re all human.

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  7. I start with the premise and the certain knowledge that I am not perfect. So why should I expect Mr. Hinch to be perfect? I agree with Mr. Boyd: forgive Mr. Hinch and give the man a second chance. I’m absolutely stunned that the Tigers hired him, but I think it’s a great move.

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  8. When do you think CI and AA developed the plan to bring AJ to Detroit? This wasn’t a spur of the moment decision as they certainly did their due diligence. Weeks or months prior to telling Gardy he would not be retained? All this time I thought they were sleeping on us.

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  9. Great read Holly, thank you. And a lot of interesting comments that echo my own dissatisfaction with how the scandals were left unresolved. You mention MLB ‘wanting the scandal to go away’. I’m with you on that. I’ll always believe that MLB knew what was going on in both cases, and looked the other way rather than confront the problem. Luhnow was clearly a perpetrator, but I’ll take some measure of satisfaction if his case exposes everyone who deserves some real accountability besides Hinch.

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    • Hi, TJ – There is proof that MLB knew what was going on. After the 2017 World Series, and into 2108, Mike Fiers went to Manfred’s office twice to report what was going on. The second time, he even mentioned that he’d give the money and ring back if they listened to him. He was met with crickets. That’s when he went to Ken Rosenthal with his story and it appeared in The Athletic. Only after that did MLB do something. – Holly

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      • Yes, thank you Holly, and I remember you saying that here on TT; it certainly helped fuel my disappointment and resentment for how little MLB and ownership did to really address the problem.

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      • Did Fiers’ exposing of this thing publicly contribute to his being non-tendered by the A’s this month? Or was it his pitching? We might not ever know. Will he be blackballed in 2021? That would be telling.

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      • Hi, Robert – Fiers was signed by the A’s when all of this was starting to break. When he went into the A’s clubhouse, he got a standing O from the other players so the team loved him. He spent nearly 2.5 years with them and the non-tender has everything to do with the pandemic and loss of revenue, esp. for the A’s who operate on a shoe-string budget. He was making over $10 mill for his last year (not pro-rated) and we are starting to see the signs that a lot of players will be non-tendered throughout the game simply for financial reasons. (Look at Brad Hand.) He’s also 35. – Holly

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  10. I am happy to get Hinch, but can someone please explain to me how the cheating he was involved in over the course of an entire season can be called “a single incident”? With all due respect, a single incident doesn’t last 6 months.

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