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Al Kaline says Nicholas Castellanos is the leader of this Tiger team.  Why not Miguel Cabrera?


 

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17 thoughts on “FORUM FOR FRIDAY

  1. Some people are leaders and some people are not. Miguel Cabrera is an amazing ballplayer, but he is not a leader. That’s not a knock on him; let him succeed at what he is good at and don’t expect him to do something he can’t. Nick Castellanos is a leader, maybe a better leader than a ballplayer. That’s okay, too; we need someone to lead the team.

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  2. Perhaps for a rebuilding team of youngsters, a young player on the rise is a more energizing player to emulate than an established player on the decline. But leadership is mostly a matter of personal qualities to which others are drawn, and Miggy has never really shown those characteristics. I’m not aware that Castellanos has yet shown those qualities either, but he’s maturing, and it would be nice if he proves the great Al right.

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  3. A leader has to perform AND FACILITATE verbally. Miggy doesn’t have that make up. Shortest and sweetest I can say it. #6 would know dont you think folks?

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  4. Miguel is becoming an aging superstar who just might be starting to fade. He is indeed “trapped” on this team and has acknowledged he doesn’t know all of his teammates. Miguel wasn’t considered a team leader when we were competitive so why would he be considered a team leader now?

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  5. If Miggy were the “leader” of the team, you would end up with a team of players who can’t run all the way to first base when they hit the ball. Nobody can hit enough to make up for that. The man will probably go to the hall of fame without ever having put in enough effort to deserve the trip.

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  6. Miggy has never been a leader. Nick must be a leader in the clubhouse, because I don’t remember him ever standing up, except for himself, and correcting everyone as to how he would like to be addressed. That is arrogance, not leadership.

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  7. Interestingly, I never thought Kaline himself had the personality to embrace a leadership role, even though he was the most accomplished player on the Tigers for most of a generation. The guys who I thought of as leaders as the team coalesced into champions were McAuliffe and Freehan.

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      • Interesting, Dace. I cannot recall him ever noted for saying much, although he certainly led by example and was a model of professionalism. Were there any incidents I have forgotten where he explicitly demonstrated leadership?

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  8. I agree with Tommy Sidelko. I think that McCann may be the leader. Isn’t he the one who called out Iglesias for a nonchalant performance one day a couple of seasons ago?

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  9. I was a great fan of Al Kaline when he played, but this doesn’t fit the narrative because Nick isn’t in the future plans of the Tigers as were being told.

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  10. Nocynic: “……(Kaline) ended up scoring the run that won the Tigers the pennant. After the game, Kaline told Smith he did not deserve to play in the World Series because other players had stepped up in his absence.”Nick Waddell Society for American baseball research. That sounds like leadership to me. I’m sure his teammates reacted positively to this . Thanks Nocynic !

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  11. There are many types of leaders, the quiet ones who go about their jobs and help those that asks, then there are the rah rah types who psychic up their teammates, and then there are the ones that will do anything necessary to get the job done and there are the jokers who keeps morale up and keep people from getting bored with the daily grind. All these types are needed for any organization to succeed.

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