THERE, I SAID IT

By:  Holly Horning

On Friday, I started a series of blogs on my observations and conclusions, so far, about the Tigers since 2006. If you missed the first installment, catch it here:

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2016/11/03/there-i-said-it/

This is all about the long-standing direction of the team and why, despite the immense talent, they have been unsuccessful when everything was on the line. It’s all based upon Mr. I’s well-publicized desire to win the World Series. This series is meant to uncover, examine and discuss why their path has never achieved the desired goals and why it’s been 32 years, second-longest in the AL Central, since the last one.


In the media, most portray the process of winning as simply getting the right players. But we know there are many more factors that play into creating a successful team – and franchise. And those factors are tangible and intangible. Just ask Theo Epstein, who has managed to break baseball’s two longest curses because of his vision and strategy.

The Tigers have poured more money into signing players than any other team, save for the Dodgers. Are there beliefs and corporate culture issues that have been holding them back? That’s a primary premise of these blogs.

This is a series that is also dependent upon you, the reader, to weigh in. My statements are only meant to be the starting point. These beliefs are meant to inspire analysis and carry you through the month, season and coming years.

Today, it’s up to you to carry the conversation here. So let’s begin some great dialogues as they relate exclusively to issues surrounding ownership. Over the coming weeks, we’ll also address the Front Office, managing, coaching and other topics.

Please pick one topic and start the conversation. Don’t forget to come back later and respond to others who have posted.


OWNERSHIP

1. We have been very fortunate to have had such a generous owner in Mr. I. However, his judgment about signing certain players as well as his “fast food” approach (buying talent vs. developing players) to winning has been very poor and has cost the team in both the short- as well as long-term.

2. While everyone assumed there was a sense of urgency to win given Mr. I’s advancing age, he did not exercise it as exemplified by retaining Dave Dombrowski for 14 years (second-longest tenured GM in baseball history) and agreeing to the hire of a rookie manager for a team that needed to “win now.”

3. Despite massive amounts of money being put into payroll, ownership invested nothing into the infrastructure and future success of the team via technology, analytics, scouting, farm systems, etc. The Tigers were one of baseball’s most antiquated teams that continued to ignore the evolution of how the game was now being played.

4. Contrary to public statements that placed a priority on winning a ring, attendance really was king above all. High-profile signings, power pitchers and lots of HRs (by big and slow guys) never meshed with a park that was built for doubles, defense and speed. Flashy play attracts the masses while great play is better appreciated by fans who understand the game’s nuances.

5. If Chris Ilitch is now truly the one in charge, he may just be the catalyst for change – rocky and disappointing as it may initially be. Cutting payroll and long-term expensive contracts may be the action that forces the Tigers to develop an updated system that puts a priority on acquiring and developing a more well-rounded athlete and team.

6. Maybe the time has come for the Ilitch family to sell the Tigers. If hints that they may be preparing this team for sale pan out, the upside potentially could be a new owner with a different and updated perspective who will bring in a new vision and fresh personnel.

14 thoughts on “THERE, I SAID IT

  1. The urgency to win and fill seats at the new stadium brought in Gonzales, Pudge, Magglio, etc. The 2006 season maybe came too soon and seemed to show it was time to win a WS. And stars after another were brought in. Winning teams today show that you start with young talent and then bring the the stars. The Tigers started the wrong way and now it is falling down.

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  2. Randy Smith could not put together a team built on speed, defense, doubles and I’ll add in athleticism. Dave couldn’t do it because he couldn’t or was given orders to go after ball mashers. What makes us think here in the early goings that Al Avila will change the culture of the franchise?

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  3. A quick reminders to readers that today’s blog and comments are exclusively focused around ownership issues and the questions posed above. A number of comments concerning players and the manager have been submitted and we ask that you save them for when we cover those topics. Thank you!

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  4. My question is how did we end up with the stadium? As you noted it seems to be built for single/double play not home runs. Since we have slow hr hitters why wasn’t the stadium modified to suit our team, Mr. I or DD who is responsible for not changing the size

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  5. I’ve waited till Day 2 to respond. I’ll combine as much as possible. I’ve had NO problem with the last decade of Illitch and Mr D. Their win NOW talent procurement was always trying to fit the last jig saw piece in the puzzle. And that took big buck but gave us a VERY competitive team to back each year.

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  6. Holly, If Chris were truly in charge, wouldn’t he/shouldn’t he come out and make a public statement as to the current direction of the team? I would think him taking over would be a big enough change that it would warrant some kind of comment from him. What does your research tell you about how teams handle these kinds of changes?

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    • Hi, Sprocket – The Ilitch family is notoriously private so I wouldn’t expect Chris to come out now and speak until his father passes. Remember the tizzy fans were in when it was quietly announced that Chris was named the next official head? Any announcement now would cause massive gossip about his father’s health. They won’t say anything out of respect for their father and privacy. Additionally, they want to keep fans guessing because of ticket sales. Saying you are rebuilding will kill sales during peek buy season. They probably won’t even say exactly where they are because of sales and also a renewing tv contract. Great questions – thanks! – Holly

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      • I get where you are coming from but I wouldn’t even consider buying a season ticket until I knew what the heck was going on with the team.

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      • Hi, Sprocket – And I totally understand your rationale, but consider that you are well above the average fan and there will be thousands who won’t question, but will still buy their tickets. In marketing, particularly in sports, teams appeal to the masses, not the select elite, because that’s where the money is. They will never come out and tell fans their true intentions. They will leave it ambiguous and not make comments that may make fans nervous because the #1 goal is to fill seats. Just in case, hold off on renewing until the last possible minute. 🙂 – Holly

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  7. The Tigers have almost always been a reactionary franchise. Managed by Ty Cobb in the 1920s, they tried and failed to win at a game that had been revolutionized by Babe Ruth with tactics from the Dead Ball Era. And only the Red Sox took longer to integrate.

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  8. Seeing the Cubs and Indians young homegrown talent, the big question I have is, even if the owners focused on buying talent rather than drafting and developing it, is it not possible to do both? Is it a monetary issue that Detroit can’t focus on developing homegrown talent AND pursuing free agents?

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  9. Study the great philosopher’s , business strategist and so on. Except in’win now’ marketing strategies no business leader will tell you what thier thinking. Why I fear the coming Chris influence. Learned to read thier moves like a chess game.

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  10. The Illitch’s will have a tough road to hoe if they are actually trying to sell the team when reducing salaries. When you reduce salaries, you are bound to lose fans – both in the seats and on TV, and probably in gear and jersey sales. Losing fan interest in the team would result in a lesser TV package.

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  11. Actually, if the Tigers are serious about selling the team, then dumping payroll is the right way to go. They would have to clean up the deficit spending and oversized payroll that they have been carrying, to attract new ownership. They need to clean up the books sort of speak, balance payroll to make the investment more attractive.

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