TWO TIMES TWO FOR TUESDAY

By:  Holly Horning & Kurt Snyder

Hey folks, while we contemplate the constant speculation about which players will go where and for how much, let’s take a break until we have something more concrete to analyze.

And while we wait, how about a little fun? As fans, we all have our favorite Tigers. And we would love to share ours with you. But it seems wrong to have to pick just one. So we will spice it up a little by listing our favorite players at each position from 2 different eras; from 1900 to the mid 1960’s and from 1968 to the present.

Now this is where Holly has the advantage as she has legitimate favorites from the first era while Kurt is forced to list players he has just plain heard of or seen on reel to reel film.

Like that Ty Cobb guy for instance. I wonder if he had Holly’s favorite number. Either way, it should be a pretty compelling comparison.

So read on and when you’re done, feel free to share your list. It’s a fun topic for sure.


HOLLY

MANAGER
Hughie Jennings
Sparky Anderson

KURT

MANAGER
Ty Cobb
Sparky Anderson


HOLLY

STARTING PITCHER
Schoolboy Rowe
Justin Verlander

KURT

STARTING PITCHER
Hal Newhouser
Jack Morris


HOLLY

RELIEVER
(NA – true relievers per se didn’t emerge until the 1960’s for Detroit)
John Hiller

KURT

RELIEVER
??
Willie Hernandez


HOLLY

CATCHER
Birdie Tebbetts
Bill Freehan

KURT

CATCHER
Mickey Cochrane
John Wockenfuss


HOLLY

1B
Hank Greenberg
Miguel Cabrera

KURT

1B
Hank Greenberg
Miguel Cabrera


HOLLY

2B
Charlie Gehringer
Dick McAuliffe

KURT

2B
Charlie Gehringer
Lou Whitaker


HOLLY

3B
George Kell
Aurelio Rodriguez

KURT

3B
George Kell
Aurelio Rodriguez


HOLLY

SS
Billy Rogell
Alan Trammell

KURT

SS
Harvey Kuenn
Alan Trammell


HOLLY

OF (Historical)
Ty Cobb
Sam Crawford
Harry Heilman

OF (Modern Day)
Willie Horton
Al Kaline
Mickey Stanley

KURT

OF (Historical)
Ty Cobb
Sam Crawford
Bobby Veach

OF (Modern Day)
Kirk Gibson
Al Kaline
Ron Leflore


HOLLY

DH
(DH – Duh, no Historical)
Victor Martinez

KURT

DH
None
Willie Horton

19 thoughts on “TWO TIMES TWO FOR TUESDAY

  1. I would vote for Norm Cash as one of my historical first basemen. Check out his stats. Very impressive. I liked watching him play when I was a kid. Seemed to always have a smile on his face.

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  2. Fun list! Kurt John Wockenfuss?! Holly – absolutely loved Dick McAullife! Can remember imitating his unorthodox stance whenever I batted from the left side. Shocked that neither of you selected Gates Brown as designated hitter. Maybe there should have been a pinch hitter category. I bet he would have been on both of your lists!

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    • Hi, Ray – Gates didn’t make the list due to a technicality as DHs weren’t official until the ’70’s. Maybe we should have had a “bench” category….Thanks for adding to the discussion! – Holly

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  3. It’s good to see Johnny B get some respect, although maybe there should be a “utility player” category for him. I would have had to go with Freehan or Parrish as catcher. And if we’re talking about “favorites” and not “best” Mark Fidrych has got to get a mention doesn’t he?

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  4. I don’t see how you can leave Lance Parish off this list. He and Micky Cochrane were the best catchers and leaders at that position we ever had. Pudge did not play long enough in a tiger uniform, but he certainly deserves honorable mention. For me, Jack Morris and Micky Lolich were were their weight in gold. They were money in the bank.

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    • Hi, Walt – These lists are personal favorites, not based upon stats necessarily. While I loved Parrish, I had to make a “Sophie’s Choice”. Not speaking for Kurt, these lists were very hard to make and often the winner was a photo-finish. Thanks for adding to the conversation! – Holly

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      • Speaking for myself – I had fun with it and that was the intent. I picked John Wockenfuss as my favorite catcher, certainly not because he was one of our all time best. But who can forget his batting stance and the wiggling fingers? I chose Ron Leflore as a favorite outfielder, mainly because of his story that began in a jail cell and ended in centerfield at Tiger Stadium. But by no means was he a good outfielder. He wasn’t. But boy could he run. This was an exercise of fun and we need to do more of these. Thanks, Kurt

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  5. Here are my favorites from the teams I actually saw since 1964: Catcher: Ivan Rodriguez, First: Norm Cash, Second: Dick McAuliffe, Shortstop: Trammel, Third: Travis Fryman, LF: Gates Brown, CF: Curtis Granderson, RF: Al Kaline, DH: VMart, LH Starter: Lolich, RH Starter: Morris, RP: Hiller

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  6. I liked Travis Fryman. He had the complete package – offense, defense, personality. I thought he was going to be the next great lifetime Tiger, after Kaline, Trammell, Whitaker, and others. Wish the Tigers hadn’t traded him.

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  7. From an historical perspective, I’m of the opinion that Mickey Cochrane was the greatest manager in Tigers history. He managed the Tigers during their mini dynasty of the mid 30s, winning it all in ’35 during the fading years of Ruth, the final years of Lou Gehrig and before Joe DiMaggio made his debut in 1936.

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  8. For manger – Mayo Smith for his gutsy move of Mickey Stanley to shortstop in the 68 series against the Cardinals ! For outfield – Rocky Colavito, he & Cash & Kaline provided a lot of offense. And for 2B – Jake Wood – I was at a Tiger game where he scored from second base on a deep fly to CF (1961 I think).

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